Let's Think About It Podcast

Episode 47: There Is Nothing Wrong With You, It's Just Fear

• Morice Mabry • Season 2 • Episode 47

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What if your greatest struggles aren't character flaws, but simply responses to fear? In this transformative episode, I sit down with Rhonda Britton, the world's first television life coach and author of the bestselling book "Fearless Living," who shares her extraordinary journey from unimaginable tragedy to becoming a pioneer in fear mastery.

Rhonda's story begins at age 14 when she witnessed her father murder her mother before taking his own life. This devastating experience led her through alcoholism, multiple DUIs, and three suicide attempts before she discovered a path forward through an unexpectedly simple practice: giving herself gold stars on a calendar for even the smallest positive actions.

You'll discover Rhonda's groundbreaking "Wheel of Fear" and "Wheel of Freedom" frameworks that have helped countless people identify hidden fear patterns and break free from them. Rather than viewing behaviors like procrastination, perfectionism, and people-pleasing as character flaws, Rhonda reveals how they're actually signals that fear is operating in your life.

The conversation dives deep into how fear manifests differently for each person, why habitual negative behaviors are so hard to break, and practical approaches to recognize and transform your relationship with fear. Rhonda explains how accessing your "essential nature" – parts of yourself you may have hidden away long ago – is key to moving beyond limitation.

Whether you're struggling with self-doubt, feeling stuck in harmful patterns, or simply curious about how fear might be operating behind the scenes in your life, this conversation offers profound insights and practical tools to help you live with greater authenticity and purpose.

Subscribe now to join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation. Together, we'll uncover the courage to face our fears and embrace our essential nature.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we embark on a journey of thoughtfulness and personal growth. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here to guide you through thought-promoting discussions that will inspire you to unlock your full potential. In each episode, we'll explore a wide range of topics, from self-discovery and mindfulness to goal-setting and achieving success. Together, we'll challenge conventional thinking and dive deep into the realms of possibility. Whether you're looking to find clarity in your personal or professional life, or seeking strategies to overcome obstacles, this podcast is your go-to source for insightful conversations and practical advice. So find a comfortable spot, chill and let's embark on this journey of self-improvement together. Remember, the power of transformation lies within you, and together we'll uncover the tools and insights you need to make it happen. So let's dive in. Welcome to another episode of the let's Think About it podcast. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here with another amazing guest. Her name is Rhonda Britton. Rhonda, what's up?

Speaker 2:

Hey, coach Mo, I'm here, I'm fully ready. I want to get the world fearless. I want to make everybody realize their true potential and live the life they're sole intended. So let's do this.

Speaker 1:

Now, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I want to hear. What part of the country are you in?

Speaker 2:

I live in Los Angeles, california. We've just been through fires, we had mudslides, and I pray to Lord Jesus we don't have an earthquake. But all these predictions, like all these people are going, you're supposed to be a big earthquake and I'm like, please, lord, no, not today, not today.

Speaker 1:

How's the family doing?

Speaker 2:

Yep, some people. I know people that have lost their home, that lost everything, and I actually was out with them the other night and they're renting a house in another area of town and I said, well, are you going to go back? Are you going to build? They're like no, we're going to not go there ever again. I think a lot of people are going to be leaving. I think there's going to be a substantial amount of people that will leave LA because of this, because it's too much to rebuild, it's too exhausting, it's too heartbreaking. But then other people will come in and take their place and in 20 years it'll be back.

Speaker 1:

It'll take two decades probably. That's unfortunate, but on a positive note, I have you here, ready to rock and roll.

Speaker 2:

That's right, I'm here.

Speaker 1:

So tell us who you are, what you do and the type of value you bring.

Speaker 2:

Oh, come on. Do you not know my value already? I don't have to tell you that. Come on now, all right. So who am I? Let's see, okay. So I'm going to tell you my credentials, because I know that's what most people want to hear that I was the first life coach on TV in the world. I have 600 episodes under my belt. I won bestselling books. My number one bestseller was Fearless Living sold over 150,000 copies translated into 16 languages. And I founded the Fearless Living Institute, which certifies coaches and, of course, also trains people on how to master their own fear. So I have a class called Fearless Living Transformation Program and other programs. So my number one goal is to support people in understanding how fear works so they can then master it. Underneath that, I've got a secret mission going on that if you really listen closely, you'll hear. But the secret mission is helping people understand how they respond to the world, to their human reality, and how do they access their spiritual truth.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So I want to take a step back. You help people overcome fear. Look at it from that mind's grave. How did you get there? To develop that for yourself first.

Speaker 2:

Oh, let me tell you about the worst day of my life, because that's where it all started, right? I believe that the worst days of our lives have the seed of our destiny in it. So I was 14 years old. I grew up in a little tiny town in upper Michigan. 365 inches of snow a year and we had two restaurants the fancy Douglas house buffet and the big boy no, mcdonald's that was an hour and a half away. We didn't have any fast food, any fancy things like that, and my parents had recently separated. It was father's day and my father was coming to take us out to Sunday brunch.

Speaker 2:

So my mom's in her bedroom, she's putting on her blue eyeshadow, puffing up her beehive hairdo, and my sisters are in the the bathroom fighting it out. I have two sisters, one bathroom and my father walks in the back door Come on, because that's what dads do and me and my mom start walking out. It starts raining. My dad realizes he needs to get his coat from the car. He opens the trunk to grab his coat tan Naugahyde leisure suit coat and as he opens the trunk I see out of the corner of my eye that he has not grabbed a coat, but he has grabbed a gun and he starts yelling at my mother you made me do this, you made me do this. And he fires. And now I start screaming stop, dad. What are you doing, dad? Stop. And he turns the gun, cocks it again, points it at me and I absolutely believe I'm next. He blinks and then my mother, with her literal last breath, screams out no, don't. And my father, realizing my mother is still alive, takes that bullet intended for me and shoots my mother a second time. And that second bullet goes through my mother's abdomen, out her back, lands in the car horn and all I hear for the next 20 minutes is and then my father pucks the gun one more time, puts the gun to his head and fires.

Speaker 2:

So in a matter of two minutes, I was a sole witness of watching my father murder my mother and commit suicide in front of me. I blamed myself because I didn't do anything to stop him. I didn't kick him in the shins, I didn't grab the gun, I didn't jump in front of my mother, I did nothing. I just screamed stop, dad, stop. That's all I did. When you watch your mother die and you don't save her, you don't get to be happy ever again. That's just off the table.

Speaker 2:

And that day I split into two the outside, rhonda and the inside, rhonda. The outside, rhonda, I'm fine, no, I'm fine. No, I'm good, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, fine, fine. And I don't think I'm the only person alive that split into two when they were growing up. So I split into two and the inside of me that felt guilty, ashamed, blamed myself, just tons of self-betrayal, beating myself up to the hundredth degree. And so I went to college, started drinking, became an alcoholic, got three DUIs, three suicide attempts. And it was that third suicide attempt that I realized something, coach Mo, that I'm not very good at killing myself. I'm not skilled at it because I wanted to die. When I didn't die, I said to myself what am I alive for and why am I here Now?

Speaker 2:

During those years of alcoholism, duis and suicide attempts, I was going to therapy, I was going to workshops, I read books, I did everything you're supposed to do to help you heal, and I had a lot of information in my head. Right, we all got that information, a lot of tools and information, but I still felt in the middle of the night that there was something fundamentally wrong with me. Now, when you try to kill yourself three times, they do put you in a psychiatric ward for evaluation. I went, got evaluated they deemed me not crazy Went back to my home little tiny apartment lived by myself and I said to myself I've tried all these things to help me and none of it got me over this feeling of not being good enough, like there's something broken about me. I'll never be able to recover.

Speaker 2:

So I said I have to start over because I'm not dying. So I got to figure this out. So I said what do kindergartners do? They get gold stars and a calendar. So I actually went to the store, bought gold stars, got a calendar and for the next 30 days I put a gold star on that calendar for anything that I did at all good, anything that I had hoped for, that I could think that I had worth to stay alive. And this was things like I got mad and didn't break anything. That's the level I was at. And at the end of 30 days I had a calendar filled with gold stars and that gave me the hope. I didn't know what it was yet. I didn't know what was going to transpire in the next few years, but I just knew that there was a purpose for me. I didn't know what it was, but I knew that I had to keep going and keep growing and keep figuring this out, because I had to be ready when it appeared.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing. You are an amazing person. You said the gold stars right when you went through that process and let's just say, you got to day 30, the end of the month, and you see this calendar of gold stars that you've created.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what did?

Speaker 1:

that do for your mindset.

Speaker 2:

I was so proud of myself and it also let me know that I could change. I could change because I only gave myself gold stars for anything that I did good, anything that I made an effort at, anything that any willingness to change right. So at the end of those 30 days, it was like a proof to myself, cause that's one of the things that I know, coach Mo, is people do not keep track of the things that they do well, the changes they make. They don't really keep a good track of that. What they do keep track of is all the ways they don't, all the ways they fail. They have those at an instant right, but ask me, the last time you took a risk, tell me, the last time you actually made an effort. You weren't successful, but you made the effort Because in fearless living, I don't care if you have a new thought that lasts one second.

Speaker 2:

Wow, yay, you had a new thought for one second. Okay, it disappeared, but that's okay, you'll get it back. You'll get a better one back and that will last for five seconds and pretty soon it's going to be three minutes and pretty soon it's going to be the way you say. I'm a big believer in movement forward. I don't care if it's a second, I don't care if it's a minute, I don't care if you do it once and you give up, that's okay. You did it once because that is how we build up our momentum and how we build up our belief in ourselves that, yes, I am capable of change, I am capable of making different choices.

Speaker 1:

But let me go here with you because those are all very great points. Let's look at the habit of the space that you were in when you were drinking, trying to kill yourself and things like that. Those are not the killing part, but let's just say the alcoholism. That's an easy habit to adopt because in your mindset, in our mindset, drinking helps cure the pain that you might be feeling. Right, that's right. And it easily becomes a habit and just becomes autopilot the thing to do.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's right. I drink, to drink.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then you had, like you said, the last suicide attempt and then you went through the star process right that actually created a habit process right that actually created a habit. Too right Of tracking that. So, now you had this old habit of the way you've been and now you're trying to adapt this new habit. Did you have the urge to go back to the old habits or how did you propel forward to avoid going back to the old habit?

Speaker 2:

You're asking really great questions. I love these questions. You bring up something so vital because when we do start a new habit, a new way of behaving, it is seductive to go backwards. Right, it is seductive. And it's seductive because many of your friends and family, even though they might not have liked that habit, they knew you in that habit and now you're doing this other habit I don't know if they like you too much because now you're talking up and now you're saying things and now you're changing your mind and now you're making choice and now you feel empowered. That's not exactly easy to deal with, because now I can't control you, I can't manipulate you, I can't get you to people, please, so that they want to change. But they don't have the communication skills, they don't have the skill, they don't have the courage, they don't have the words, they don't have the ability yet to know wait, what's mine and what's theirs. They're too enmeshed so they can't escape that.

Speaker 2:

And I, a friend of mine God bless him I was at work and it was cocktail waitressing in a restaurant cocktail waitressing, and he said to me Rhonda, you're going to be really successful one day, but you're going to lose it all. And I'm like what he goes. Yeah, because when you drink, it only gets worse, it only the habit gets worse. And I was like that's not going to happen to me because we're all in denial. Right, that's not going to happen to me. So I made a bet with him. I said I'm going to prove to you I'm not an alcoholic, right, because I'm so arrogant. Right, I only going to have one drink a day. Right, now, again, that also tells you I'm an alcoholic, because I don't say no drinks a day, I say one drink a day. Right, I will have one drink a day and I will prove. Because if I can have one drink a day, then I don't have a drinking problem. Right, well, and he's like okay, so I start the one drink a day, the alcohol. Having one drink a day was easy. I could do that because I wasn't physically addicted to the alcohol in any big way.

Speaker 2:

But what made me finally quit was the realization that my whole day was occupied with when I was going to have this one drink. Was it going to be at lunch, brunch, was it going to be at happy hour? Was it going to be at dinner? Was it going to be after dinner? Was it going to be. When I went to bed, literally my whole day was spent trying to come up with the optimal time, and you and I both know that when you are so obsessed with trying to keep something in play, you know you have a problem. So that's what made me realize that I had to quit drinking. So, about 30 days, I told him I'd do it for 30 days. 30 days I went oh, I am an alcoholic, because I can't quit thinking about it. So that gave me the courage to quit.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm the type of person that I go, like most people, you make a new habit and you go back and forth. Right, you do it, you don't do it, you do it, you don't do it, you do it, you don't do it. You can kind of go back and forth. Well, there has to be a moment and this is true for me that there has to be You're going to decide on your identity. You're going to decide at how you want to talk about yourself now and in the future. And I remember saying to myself I am never going to drink again, even though I wanted to drink. Every part of me wanted to drink. I knew that every bad choice I ever made was based on drinking and I knew every time I got in trouble with a man one of my boyfriends it was because of drinking. So that gave me the courage to quit.

Speaker 2:

And when I quit, there were only a few times in the first three months that I thought about it in any real way. My same friend who kept pointing out that I might have a drinking problem. I was at work again with him and the manager wouldn't give me a day off that I wanted. And so I go to the bar next door and I am really mad. She, how did she? And my friend Bill, this guy, he'd made me promise that before I have a drink I'll call him. So I already was at the bar in order to be 52 shot, because I was gonna have that be 52 because I was so upset. And so I call him and I say got b52 here. I said I'd call you. So here I'm calling you, okay, and he goes. Okay, ronda, I'm gonna tell you one thing. Can I ask you one thing? If you have that drink, if you have that drink, that means our boss is in charge of your life. And I went, excuse me, what'd you say? He goes. If you have that drink. She's controlling you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's powerful.

Speaker 2:

That just pissed me off some more, but I did not have that drink. And I think about that for because now I don't think about it at all, but the first year you're thinking about it, obviously, and every time I thought about drinking I thought if I have that drink, that situation, that person, that mood, whatever it was, that made me think about drinking, I said then that's running my life and I decided I'm never, ever going to let anything else run my life.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so that concept of you're not going to let anything control me how did that play into your fears moving forward?

Speaker 2:

that's a really good question, because back then I didn't even know I had fear. I was in complete denial, and this is where I come up with my list. Even then I was giving up, when I was giving up drinking, even when I was 14, 15, 16, after my parents said I would have never said I'm scared, not one time. Those words don't come out of my mouth I am not afraid. If you would have asked me if I'm afraid, I would have looked at you like what are you talking about? I'm not afraid. So I had no concept of how afraid I was, because I had no relationship to the words I'm afraid or I'm scared, none. So I walked around the world thinking I had no fear. I really did. And I think a lot of people are like me. People say to me me out, I'm not afraid. I'm like, yeah, you are, yeah, you are here, let me give you a quiz. And so then I pull out my good old fearless living book. Read this lovely list to them. And I'm going to read it to you right now. And if whoever's listening to us right now, if you can close your eyes, please do and nod your head. You can't close your eyes because you're driving, please don't. And then, as I read this list of words, nod your head if you do any of these things or feel any of these things.

Speaker 2:

So do you ever deny yourself? Do you ever pretend everything's okay when it's not? Do you ever hide out? Do you ever whine? Do you ever settle? Do you ever compare? Do you ever manipulate secretly? Do you ever get defensive? Do you ever judge? Do you ever complain? Do you ever procrastinate? Do you ever worry? What about struggle and blame? Do you ever wait and call it patient? What about deflecting or trying to control? Do you ever feel bitter? What about powerless? What about dissatisfied or resentful or entitled? What about guilty or disappointment? Are you ever a perfectionist, people pleaser? Do you feel indifferent? Do you get irritated, like now I'm reading this list of words? Do you ever feel ignored, betrayed, overwhelmed, annoyed, victimized? Yeah, pretty much so. When I talk to a room, whether it's a thousand or 10 people, most people, I would say 99% of the room pretty much has almost all of them.

Speaker 2:

And these words people think are their character flaws. Oh, I wish I wasn't a people player. Oh my God, I have to quit comparing. Oh my God, I have to quit judging. I'm so horrible. Oh, my God, I got to quit doing that. We judge ourself based on these behaviors, these feelings we have, these actions and really what they are, coach Mo, is their fear responses. They're just signals that fear is on patrol, right? So when you try to control, you're afraid. When you're procrastinating, there's a fear. When you're people-pleasing, there's a fear, right. So people do character assassinations. They say, oh, I wish I could not quit doing these things. What's wrong with me? Instead of there's nothing wrong with you, there's nothing wrong with you at all, it's fear. But you can see it, yeah that's right.

Speaker 1:

They're on autopilot that they don't even realize it.

Speaker 2:

That's right and that's why I created the wheel of fear and the wheel of freedom, coach Mo. That's why I created the tools to help suss that baby out, get it out of hiding, so you could see it plain as day, so you can see your fear. You know what it looks like, you know what it sounds like, you know the label on it. Because we all have a specific fear and we go through the wheel of fear. We map your fear, basically chart your fear, and then, from now on, when you're seeing those fear responses, you go oh okay, wait a minute, I'm not a bad person, I'm not weak, I'm not stupid, I'm not selfish. Right, wait a minute, my fear is on patrol. Okay, why does fear go on patrol?

Speaker 2:

Because you're doing different Fear doesn't bug you when you're on the couch eating Doritos, exactly, and I try to walk the talk and because I carry fears too. Fear is part of our neurobiology.

Speaker 1:

Exactly Getting rid of it. But here's how I learned to navigate that Acknowledge it, I embrace it. I'm afraid I'm not feeling really comfortable about going into this meeting or I'm about to go speak on this engagement. I'm feeling like crazy nervous. I acknowledge, yeah, I'm nervous right now, but I'm going to kick some ass. Yeah, that's right, you just step in it and then it just disappears and then you back to your normal self.

Speaker 2:

That's a hard leap for many people not understanding how fear works and seeing the process to do what you're saying. You're spot on. It's too big of a leap. It's I can't. I don't got that in me. I don't got it in me.

Speaker 2:

So when you see your wheel of fear and the four components, and that it's a mechanism and you see how it operates, then that gives you the courage and the fortitude to then do what you're talking about, because now you see how it operates and, more importantly, you know what's coming. If you don't because there is a path If you don't get off that wheel of fear, you're going to see what's coming. See what's coming. You're like holy crapola, I don't want that to come. So then that gives you the courage and the fortitude and the understanding to actually take the risks that you're dying to take in your life. And then, more importantly, not only the wheel of fear, but you also have a wheel of freedom. So the wheel of freedom is what you're gonna access in order to help you get off the wheel of fear. Now you've come up with your own way of doing it, which is awesome, and then for many people, they just aren't able to do that because they need more context, they need more understanding, they need more hard data, so to speak.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this how do you help people incorporate more gratitude to help offset everything that you were talking about around fear? How is gratitude incorporated?

Speaker 2:

Gratitude is a proactive behavior. So on the wheel of freedom. So we have the wheel of fear and there's fear responses, which are what I read to you, and we each have a core fear that gets ignited and causes us, gives us permission to do these fear responses. Because those fear responses are being done to avoid this core negative feeling over here, because we don't want to feel this feeling, we don't want to feel bad, we don't want to feel worthless, we don't want to feel that feeling. So we think, oh, if I just people please, if I just procrastinate, I won't have to feel that feeling. But now we know, oh crap, I'm going to feel the feeling If I do any of these fear responses. Now you're going to go to your wheel of freedom.

Speaker 2:

Now the wheel of freedom has, just like the core fear, it has what I call essential nature, that part of you that got cut off a long time ago because it wasn't safe. Now you have that. In the areas where you're order to access your essential nature, you have things called proactive behaviors, and those proactive behaviors are basically the wind beneath our wings, right, they're the things that help us trust ourselves, believe in ourselves, keep us moving forward on our wheel of freedom, and one of those is gratitude, another one is acknowledgments, right. Another one is intention statements, another one is deep breathing, and we all have. Many of us have five or ten the same, but then many of us have other things that are very unique to us. So that's why the wheels are very different and you might have a different essential nature than I would, and then you might have a different core fear than I do that's great, and so I like that, because it's specific to the individual right.

Speaker 1:

that's right and personalized, and they're attaching their meaning to the wheel and from there that's where the growth happens.

Speaker 2:

It's unique, it's personal, it's about you and you fill out the, you fill in the wheel. Now we work together, whether it's in class or through my book or however, to come up with your core fear and to come up with your essential nature, because those things are very well hidden, Like you said earlier. Right, those things are just automatic hidden. We want to bring them out to the light so they no longer trick us. So I've created a series of exercises to put people through so that they can discover what that fear is, uncover it right through a series of exercises. And the same thing with essential nature this thing you hid away a long time ago because it wasn't safe to express that. And when you start feeling the wholeness of who you are, things that used to be hard become very easy because you have all of you.

Speaker 1:

What was the click for you when you decided that I need to help people in the world learn what I've learned for myself?

Speaker 2:

Are you ready for a woo-woo story, coach Mo, yeah, do you like woo-woo stories? Because this is woo Okay, because I would have never done this, never in a million years. I owned a little PR company, worked with solo entrepreneurs, way of the day, and one of my clients was one of the very first life coaches and he would always say to me Rhonda, you're going to be a better coach than me. And I'd be like don't think so, because remember the three suicide attempts, the three DUIs and the alcoholism? I don't think so. I'm not no role model and I would say that to him all the time you are nutso, nobody's got to listen to me. But he would always say that and I was in school at the time, going through a four-year spiritual practitioner training program, basically becoming a spiritual counselor. But I never wanted to have clients, I just was doing it for myself. And so I'm at his office one day. I'm sitting on the couch, he's standing up on the board and we're brainstorm and we're like and we're creating things. And this is the woo woo part. To the corner on my right to, ceiling opens up, a cloud comes out, a book is on it and the book goes like this I'm not kidding. It goes down on the cloud and the cloud goes back in the ceiling and, mo, I'm like this, what just happened? And then I literally did not think it was me. You know how you're in front of a puddle and it splashes you. I just thought I got some splash on me that wasn't for me. So I turn around to see who came in, like it must be for that person, and there's nobody back there, and so I'm like what the heck? So I look at Paul over there, my client, and he's writing on the board doing his stuff. He has no clue what just happened. And, thank God, the very next day I had an appointment with my mentor of my spiritual counseling program and I ran in there and I'm like, uh, okay, this thing happened. The sky opened up, the ceiling opened up, a book came out in a cloud, right, right Like it's like what just happened? The download I got. So I got a download. Download was I got the answers to every question I'd ever asked. I knew everything about everything and I was told now you must go teach. And so I'm telling this to my spiritual, my minister, no-transcript.

Speaker 2:

So it started swirling around and six months later, seven months later, whatever one of my friends I was trying to enroll her in Paul's class. I was like, oh, we created this really cool class. Paul's a genius, you really got to take his class. And she goes why don't you coach me? Yeah, I want you to coach me. So I was like what the hay, I can't coach you. And she's like, yeah, I want you to be my coach. And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

So at that moment I knew it was an intervention from God himself to get me to do it. So I started coaching her. Trust me, I would run to Paul after every session and go. She said this. I said this. She said this. I said this. She said this. I said that what do I do now? What do I do now? And then, after about six, eight months, I was like what to do? Nevermind, I know what to do. And I started trusting that voice within me. I tried and started trusting the knowledge I gained. I started trusting that and the minute was really like immediate. And then I was fully in. Then I was fully in and I started coaching.

Speaker 2:

And then, after I started coaching, that same client, that evil person, that same client a year later or two years later was like hey, will you come and teach this to my work people? And I'm like, no, I'll teach you how to do it. I do one-on-one coaching. I don't teach. And so of course I tried to teach her how to do it and she couldn't get it. So then I said, okay, I'm coming in one time and then that's it. Don't ever ask me again. And then I went up, I went and four people so it's four little people, a little whiteboard and I started, and about 15 minutes in, I was like this is the best thing ever. And then, so when I teach, then it's like I like a couple months later I'm like, well, I'm going to teach, I've got to teach workshops, I've got to start speaking because I've got to get people to come to my workshops. So then I start speaking. And then of course and the book came later after that but I didn't want to do any of these things.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing 30 years.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be 30 years this year. Can you believe it?

Speaker 1:

Wow, what's next? What's next for you?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm really excited because I'm actually so this whole 30 years. I've been training coaches, since 2000. So for the last 25 years I've been training coaches and I've never figured out a way how I can teach what I do to coaches that are already certified or therapists that are already have their degrees. But I want to give them my tool. So this year I'm launching not one, but two certifications.

Speaker 2:

The first one is going to be a tool certification and I have created 40 tools and concepts that you can personalize with your own stuff. Right, and I'm giving you do-it-yourself packages. I'm going to show you exactly how to do these at workshops or as speaking events, like whatever you need to do, and you can use my material and learn the tools and concepts I use with my coaches and my clients. So that's going to be launching, coming up in early summer, probably sometime in the summer, and I'm super excited about that because now I can. I'm creating something called the fearless coaching alliance, so any coach, any therapist, anyone that does any of my work can now join that alliance. I love coaching coaches, so I love when a coach brings me a problem with a client.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, I'm so excited, so we'll be doing some of that coaching for the Fearless Coaching Alliance. And then the next thing I'm going to be launching probably more in the fall will be the Fearless Skills Certification. So I created eight skills that I've been teaching my coaches for 25 years, but I started teaching other coaches at just a little bit, and every time I teach it to coaches they always go this is a game changer. So now I have surrendered and been like you know what I got to get that out? I got to get that out. So there's going to be a skill certification too, so you don't have to become a certified fearless living coach. You could just become skill certified or tool certified, depending on what your anxious is and what your interest is.

Speaker 2:

And then the last thing which is going to be launched sooner in the next couple of months is going to be a podcast just for coaches. It is a secret podcast and I'm going to basically share every single thing I know about coaching coaching technique, coaching tools, coaching skills, coaching wisdom, coaching secrets, give you examples of how I coach. You are going to get it all, and it's going to be a podcast to help people become better coaches. Awesome, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited for you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1:

As we get ready to close out, how can my listeners find?

Speaker 2:

you Go to fearlesslivingorg and I'd love to give your listeners a free gift. It is one of my favorite tools that my clients and students love. It helps cure procrastination. It will totally cure procrastination. It'll give you so much time back you won't believe it. So go over to fearlesslivingorg, forward, slash risk, r-i-s-k. And you're going to put your name and your email in and you're going to get access to the platform with this class in it, and the class is only three 15-minute videos. It's got a workbook, it's got examples, so you know how to do it and and what's stopping you from making those dreams happen, and so I'm going to show you how to do that. And then, at the end of video three, I share the wheel of fear in more detail, so you'll actually see the wheel of fear in motion, so you'll be able to see that as well. So go over to fearlesslivingorg, forward, slash risk and grab that course and do it in the next 24 hours. It's only 45 minutes. Come on now. You can do it Great.

Speaker 1:

That's great. I love that. I'm going to tap into it, by the way.

Speaker 2:

Good skill to have for your toolkit.

Speaker 1:

Lastly, any final thoughts for the audience.

Speaker 2:

And I want them to soak this into their bones. There is nothing wrong with you, it's just fear. There is nothing wrong with you, it's just fear. Beating yourself up is the number one tool uses. It spins that wheel around. It's just like oil on the wheel. So every time you beat yourself up, put yourself down and believe you are at fault or you're the one that's wrong or bad or whatever you say. There's nothing wrong with you, it's just fear.

Speaker 1:

There it is, Ms Rhonda Britton. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for dropping huge nuggets.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. It's been a pleasure, coach Mo. I love it, and let's help the world get fearless. I'm going to have to bring you back, back, baby, let's do it, bring me back. Part two.

Speaker 1:

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