Let's Think About It Podcast

From Doubts to Determination: Overcoming Challenges with Action and Grit

• Morice Mabry

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Join me, Coach Mo, as I sit down with the inspiring Robert B. Foster, host of the Shut Up and Grind podcast, to uncover his journey of personal growth and resilience. 💪✨

As the youngest of seven athletic siblings, Robert's competitive spirit was forged in the fires of sibling rivalry 🔥🏀—but his path was not without challenges. Facing early physical limitations and a coach who doubted his high-jumping potential, Robert transformed these hurdles into stepping stones, eventually catching the attention of colleges. 🎓💡 A defining moment came in 2009 when a severe knee injury threatened his future, but Robert’s story is a testament to the power of determination and refusing to let others dictate his capabilities. 🏋️‍♂️💥

🔑 Listen as we explore the power of action and storytelling in overcoming life's obstacles.
I share my own journey of defying medical odds through sheer willpower and proactive recovery, emphasizing the importance of self-belief and discipline. 💭🩺 Together, Robert and I bring a wealth of stories about sports injuries, career transitions, and more, highlighting the importance of revisiting core values and passions to unlock internal motivation. 🌟🎯

Emphasizing the transformative power of reframing personal narratives, we dive into how unblocking energy can lead to newfound productivity and confidence. ⚡📈 Our conversation is packed with insights and strategies to help you navigate challenges and seize opportunities, leaving you inspired to take control of your own story. 🚀📖

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we embark on a journey of thoughtfulness and personal growth. I'm your host, coach Mo, and I'm here to guide you through thought-promoting discussions that will inspire you to unlock your full potential. In each episode, we'll explore a wide range of topics, from self-discovery and mindfulness to goal-setting and achieving success. Together, we'll challenge conventional thinking and dive deep into the realms of possibility. Whether you're looking to find clarity in your personal or professional life, or seeking strategies to overcome obstacles, this podcast is your go-to source for insightful conversations and practical advice. So find a comfortable spot, chill and let's embark on this journey of self-improvement together. Remember, the power of transformation lies within you, and together we'll uncover the tools and insights you need to make it happen. So let's dive in. Welcome to another episode of the let's Think About it podcast. I'm your host, coach Mo, and I'm here with another amazing guest, my man, robert B Foster. What's up?

Speaker 2:

bro, not much. Glad to see you again, man.

Speaker 1:

Mr Shut Up and Grind podcast host. He's here. What's up, man? First and foremost, where are you checking in from?

Speaker 2:

I am in Charlestown, rhode Island, small town with a big town, feel Wow, born and raised. I was born in the city in New York but I was raised up here. I think we moved out of the city. I was two and a half, maybe three.

Speaker 1:

Nice, what's the weather like up there right now? You guys got a lot of snow. Is it rainy or?

Speaker 2:

We didn't get a lot of snow. I mean it's mostly gone out there now, but it's like high 30s today for the high.

Speaker 1:

Oh, ok. So what's up, man? Tell me, tell us, tell my audience, like who you are, what you do, and even take us through what your podcast is about.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Well, there's a lot of different ways to answer that question, so I'll start with who I am. At my core, I'm a competitor, right, and I get that competitive edge. I'm the youngest of seven siblings and we were all athletes Like my parents were active, but being the baby. And I was the youngest of seven siblings and we were all athletes like my parents were active, but being the baby.

Speaker 2:

And I was also a late bloomer, meaning as a freshman in high school. I was five foot four, 88 pounds, and my brother was big and muscly. My other brother was big and muscly, my sister was tall and strong and they're all getting headlines in the newspapers and winning trophies and medals. And here I am, the skinny duckling of the group, but that drove me because I wanted those accolades, like I wanted to see my picture in the newspaper and, just to my core, I just went to work and then, finally, my biology caught up. It was. It wasn't until my junior year where I finally got over six feet tall. I was still skinny, I think I was 135, 137 when I graduated high school, but but at least I had some muscle on me now.

Speaker 1:

And I was what sport, what sport.

Speaker 2:

So my main sport was track and field, but I also did volleyball and basketball.

Speaker 1:

OK, ok yeah track was.

Speaker 2:

Track was my main thing, like my sister. What was a high jumper? You know, she was state champion her senior year and and I wanted that it looked. It just looked so fun, you know, and I was like I want to do that too. And then finally it was, although in there, as a freshman when I was 5'4, 88 pounds. I remember asking my high jump coach well, my track coach for the record book and he did one of these, looked me up and down and he said why do you want the record book? And I was like because I'm gonna break the high jump record. And again he looked at me. It was like you don't have what it takes to be a high jumper. Wow, wow, yep.

Speaker 2:

Said that right to my face. You don't have what it takes to be a high jumper.

Speaker 1:

So when he told you that you was what? 15, 14?.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, somewhere around there, wow, 88. Yes, I was 14.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So that became the internal drive that you just kind of carried from that point moving forward.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, and then it just never left. It never left me. So, but, but like, even as a freshman, even when I was small, I was working on the fundamentals, like I wasn't really good at the high jump yet, like I wasn't a freshman phenom or anything, but I was learning the fundamentals, learning the approach, you know, learning the takeoff. So by the time my body caught up to the knowledge, then I rose to that, to that level where I had colleges, you know, coming from all over and looking at me and this was before the internet, right, right. So back then, you know, for, like, stanford in California, like how did they hear about me? But I got myself to that level to where other eyes were starting to notice. But it started from him planting that seed, because what if I listened to him? What if I didn't pursue it? Right, and that's what I share with my podcast.

Speaker 2:

To answer the other part of your questions is shut up and grind. To answer the other part of your question is shut up and grind because very similar, but now as an adult, in 2009, I had a bad knee injury, still competing in track and field at the right 34, and I had a bad knee injury and the doctor, the er doctor. He takes off the brace that the emt is put on and, without even touching me, he just opens it up and says you'll never run or jump again, like whoa, wow, because at the I have five kids and at the time you know they were little. I think my oldest was 10 and I had twin boys, who were four months old at the time, and two daughters in between. I'm like you're trying to tell me I'm not going to be able to run around with my kids and play basketball. You know, go walking on the rocks at the beach. Like you're trying to tell me I'm not going to be able to do any of this stuff.

Speaker 1:

At that point? How old were you at that point?

Speaker 2:

34. Oh okay, yep, 34. And I actually started tearing up a little, you know, because I immediately started going to all the negative, started tearing up a little, you know, because I I immediately started going to all the negative, but then it hit me. I was like, dude, you're a competitor, you know. That's why I want, I wanted to start with that. Like at my core, I'm a competitor. So I was like you know what? Game on, game on, I said it said it's it's up to you to put my knee back in place, right, because my kneecap was about four inches up my quad right. So I said it's your job to put my knee back in place, right, because my kneecap was about four inches up my quad right. So I said it's your job to put my knee back into place. I'll decide how I heal. And I just went to work.

Speaker 1:

What was the internal shift, though? What made you like shift from that victim mentality, why me or you know, being angry with what the doctor has told you you'll never walk? What was the shift for you to really move you out of that state of being, into this, more back to your competitive self? What was that?

Speaker 2:

Well, it goes back to that's who I am at my core. You know, so like, when I do my show. Show, that's the only question I prepare people for. Because, because a lot of people they take on their career as their identity and I'm like, no, your career is what you do. You know that's not, that's not necessarily who you are. You know, so like, whether I'm speaking with you on your platform, whether people are coming on my platform, my attitude doesn't shift. It's like my core, that's who I am.

Speaker 2:

So for a minute there I came out of pocket when I went to the negative. It's like that's not who I am. It's like my house can burn down and I'll be like you know what. Knock on wood and I'll be like you know what. We have insurance, everybody's safe, everybody's healthy. We can rebuild the house.

Speaker 2:

You know, so like, I don't let trivial things that I can't control bother me. So like, but what hit me? I was like you know what I can control, how I heal, like I can control how much I stretch, how much I follow the physical therapist's advice and how I can go above and beyond. It's like I can believe in myself to find my own threshold and defy these odds Right.

Speaker 2:

So like it wasn't about accepting this person's diagnosis, because when and again I always say this on my show, say it on yours as well. I'm not telling people not to listen to your doctor, it's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying I know me, I know my body, I know what my body feels like and I know what I'm capable of. So I kind of took matters into my own hands, like after the first couple of appointments, because this was my first surgery and I ended up having seven, and when I tell you, I killed the rehab in the other six. So that first one was the learning curve. But coming back from that, I was like this is going to be a great story Because, know, because, like being told, like, like you'll never be able to do something, and then you come out and you do it. I was like now I can use that as a stepping stone to motivate others. Like it was, it was never about proving the doctor wrong to me, I just took it as a challenge and challenge accepted, challenge crushed.

Speaker 1:

And when I coach clients and one of the things that I share with them is your values, revisiting and tapping back into the values, right? I remember, you know since we're talking about sports and injuries and things like that I remember I had broke my collarbones and we was at a family picnic and I went up, I jumped for the ball and I just and I landed on my shoulder and I broke my collarbone, right. I remember the doctor told me you will never play football again. You know, if you, if it heals wrong, you'll never play again. And just like you, that stuck in my mind. What the hell, you mean, I'm not going to play football again, right?

Speaker 1:

So I just had that drive going to play football again, right? So I just had that drive, that passion, because football for me at that age was all I had, that's what all I knew, right, and that was my ticket to go to college. That's what I wanted to do, that's what I wanted to evolve into. Is this professional football player is what my goal was. But I made it to college and I played, you know, my college ball at UC Davis.

Speaker 1:

But the driver was my determination for myself not to give up on something that I love and at that moment in my life it was ball, it was football, and no doctor was going to tell me that I couldn't fulfill my joy and my passion. I managed to to really navigate that Fast forward to now working with clients that I help, like when you're feeling stuck. How do you get back to that value? How do you get back to that passion? Because that's what the internal motivator could be and you defining whatever those values are. As I say that, what's registering with you in your scenario and how things went back to your values answer that with one word action.

Speaker 2:

Like I took action every single day, every day, whether it's something as simple as just stretching. I had this machine it's called the cpm machine which had used to bend my leg, and I was supposed to do it minimum three hours a day. They didn't give me a maximum. Yeah right, they didn't give me a maximum. I stayed on that thing all day long, laying on the couch watching tv, doing my ab crunches, because I was overweight one time in my life and this happened maybe this was like a year and a half before this incident. Because, like, my goal was, like you know what, I'm going to shed the weight, I'm going to get back to track and field fitness. And I knew actually how the body worked because I had a gym quality leg extension machine and I was hitting it every single day, not realizing how awful that is, and I wasn't compensating with hamstring strength or glute strength, so that's what led to my kneecap pulling away. The surgeon said that my quad muscles were too strong for the joint, so it was. It was dominating in in the knee and that's what ended up pulling my kneecap off.

Speaker 2:

But again, going back to your question, it's, it's about action. So, like when I bought this podcast stuff, I got the lights, I got the microphone, you know, I got the green screen behind me and I had it and it was just sitting in my spare room just sitting there and it's like, oh, you know, I don't, I don't have time to do this podcast. Oh, my father was sick during this time so we were spending a lot of time at the hospital and I just kept putting on the back burner. And then one day I was like you just have to do it, dude. It's like, what are you doing? It's like you know, you bought the stuff, you have the stuff. Just, even if I get on for 15 minutes and just talk about something like you just have to start, right, you just have to start. And like with pod match, my sister told me about pod match just two weeks ago. I have 33 bookings already through that right, like it's insane and it was just from getting started.

Speaker 2:

you know taking that action, because I tell people, when you focus on the struggles, when you, when you're making excuses, you're missing the opportunities that are waving right in your face. Yeah, so I went from not knowing how to get guests to having to turn guests away.

Speaker 1:

Right, Because I have too many. Well, let's go here real quick because there's a lot of listeners who may not have played sports and had that internal drive like athletes have. You have professionals that's maybe even been on your guests or working with people individually? What is it that really keeps them motivated and going if they're not an athlete or have that experience of being an athlete? What do you find that to be through your experience?

Speaker 2:

You have to make it bigger than you. You know, like when I'm doing that, like whether it's my own podcast, speaking on other people's podcast, like I'm not here to just talk about me, you know, I'm hoping that the audience takes away from my experiences and my advice. So I think a lot of people go into things not for the right reasons, say, oh, if I go on this show, I'm going to gain this many social media followers and I'm going to get this many YouTube subscriptions and those are good after effects of the main mission. The main mission is to give the society in your audience that needs to hear it the way that I say it, and vice versa. When you come on my show, it's going to be people who listen to me all the time and then you're going to come on with maybe a slightly different perspective that just hits somebody differently.

Speaker 2:

You know, like I always say I always say there's different, there's different levels, different levels, different experiences. There's different, different outcomes. You know, and like on my show too, I do panels and we pick one theme and it's like it's usually myself and up to six other guests and we take that one theme and we all round, roundtable it. You know, because not one voice is 100 percent right for everyone, like Gary Vee. Gary Vee's pretty brash, you know, and for some people they need that, but other people it's a turnoff. Now, then there's other people who might be too mild, someone, someone like me. That doesn't work for me. I just need someone to be. All right, bro, if you want success, here's the path, and I'm showing up because somebody out there needs the inspiration. So when you make it bigger than yourself, it makes it easier. When my alarm goes off at 4.30 in the morning five days a week and then 6.50 in the morning on the weekends, like, yes, I work seven days a week because this isn't about me, like everything I do helps other people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so where did the concept of shut up and grind come from? Why podcasting?

Speaker 2:

All right, so it's a multifold answer. So originally it was my dad. So my dad was an engineer and he was constantly building something and he was the type if he wanted something, he was going to figure out a way to do it. For a quick example he came home with this busted up station wagon. When I tell you, the passenger side was all the way pushed into the center of the car. I remember him coming up the driveway. It was myself, my mom and my sister. We're in the window like what is that? And I drove it six months later. I was driving that car six months later. It's like whatever he set out to do, he figured out a way to get it done. So he may have never said the words, but his actions is definitely where Shut Up and Grind originated.

Speaker 2:

So for me it started out as shut up and exercise. But I started realizing that the principles that I use in fitness to help people lose weight run faster, jump higher, right whatever they're trying to accomplish you can use those same principles in life. You know like, if you want to lose 20 pounds right, we got to get your beginning stats right, okay, okay. If you want to start start a podcast, you know, we got to get your beginning stats right. It's like, okay, if you want to start a podcast, we got to get what's your main message. You know, do you have the right lighting? You know. So, like you got to find that same starting point.

Speaker 2:

So I shifted from shut up and grind to well, this was after the injury and the first time I ran again. Then I switched it to shut up and grind because I wanted to help people overcome whatever it is like, not not just fitness related, not just sports related. I tailored my show to the storytelling. Like I don't really interview people, because it's in those messes where people resonate, you know, like like I hadn't, I hadn't just guessed. Come on now she has a seven figure business and she was kind of leading with that and I was like I was like all, all right, look, let's, let's go back. Let's go back, cause if someone is broken, hanging on by a thread, they don't want to hear your million dollar BS, they don't want to hear that. You know, they want to hear how you got there, right, yeah, so my show morphed from just being about fitness and exercise into Well, so, since you've created, you Shut Up and Grind.

Speaker 1:

What do you feel has been your evolution as a podcaster? What growth has happened for you since you've launched and been on this journey?

Speaker 2:

The biggest thing I've learned and guests learn it in real time on my show that pain is pain, right on my show. That pain is pain, right, pain is pain. And where that's where that's huge is because people are afraid to tell the stories, because they think their stories aren't big enough, like they think, oh, I had never beaten stage four cancer, so like I don't deserve to get up and share my story. I was like, okay, but you went through a divorce after being married for 25 years, thinking that you were going to be with this person for the rest of your life. Like that's life changing as well. It said so you had to wake up every day and adjust to being single, adjust to having your kids split. You know, I was like that that's huge.

Speaker 2:

And someone going through stage four cancer they have to wake up every day and face death. Right, it's like pain is pain. They're interchangeable. So the more I started interviewing people, I started piecing that together. It doesn't really matter what happened to you, and when people tell stories, they tend to focus on the what happened, the fact that I had a major knee surgery. This happens every day. Right, it happens every day. Nothing, nothing special happened to me, I decided to be a rebel and created my own outcome. Like the power is in that journey, so understanding that made me a better interviewer, which has given me a better product for my audience.

Speaker 1:

Right, and it's interesting that you say you run your show based off of stories, right? Part of my coaching experience is helping people get out of their own way, because people have their own story and interpretation of how they think things should be Right, and a lot of times that story is flawed and so you bring up pain. Whatever you're going through, whatever that hurdle is, it's harmful to you internally. Maybe your ego is shattered, maybe something happened that creates an emotion that makes you feel frustrated. Through that emotion of frustration, an interpretation happens, a story that you tell yourself, to why you're frustrated, and you typically carry that story and then that's how you show up in the world, right, and so I'm an energy coach, and so what that means is, when you're carrying this story and you're frustrated, it blocks your energy because of this limiting belief, interpretation that's in your mind that you believe to be true, and you carry it and you're not sharing it with anyone because that's your story and you're in this rut and you're just stuck and you're stagnant and you have this pity, but then, like you said, something shifts and then you start to gain a confidence.

Speaker 1:

Think, the value of what I do is help people realize that the story that you're telling yourself in that moment is not true. It's flawed, yeah, and when you realize that, courage, action, however you want to describe it your energy shifts and you naturally become productive. Yes, love that, you know what I mean. And so when you have your guests come on and this is what I'm hearing from you when you have your guests come on, they're sharing their story, right, the story of the pain, and whatever that pain was, they had a viewpoint of it, and then there was a shift. Yes, there was a shift, and that shift was maybe a perspective that changed a certain thought, that changed a certain action, and then you got a different result. And that's powerful, man, for what you're doing and bringing guests on to share their stories. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, speaking of sharing stories, I want to share one quick to illustrate what you just said. So I had a guest on. She started a business for people to put all of their end-of-life documents into one place, like one online kind of filing cabinet, and so, as she's giving me the breakdown of the story, right, so the gist of the story was her sister suddenly passed away at 36 years old and so, and that moved her to start this, this company. So, as she's talking to me about the company and the process and everything else, so I said, well, what happened with your sister? Right, and I could tell she kind of got a little uncomfortable with her body language and I was like, like, if you don't want to go there, I mean you don't have to.

Speaker 2:

I said, but if you started this company based off of what happened, I think it's important for people to know what happened. And so she goes into it. I guess they were supposed to go out with their husbands. She felt weird. She felt off for a minute, stepped out onto the deck and collapsed right. So now when I heard that and see the look on your face, right, it's like that's a lean-in moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like now I'm listening because, as I said earlier, I have six siblings. So now I started thinking, wow, what would we do if that happened to me or one of my siblings? Right? So now, going back to what I was saying earlier, it's not about you, it's about the audience. Right? Because, because both of us were like whoa, you know it's like that intensifies the story.

Speaker 2:

I was like you're, you're holding on, you're holding on to the grief that she's gone, right, and she has, instead of leaning into the 36 years that you had with her. No, I know, I know it's tough to do when you're grieving, but, like people, people ask me all the time because, like I watched my father pass away and that's a sight that I'll never unsee but I've also interviewed people who never met their father, who never had a father figure in their life. I had this man for 45 years, so I leaned into that. I leaned into the teachings and the butt whoopings and the deep talks and the sports coaching, like there was so much stuff that he left behind, right? So this isn't about me feeling sad, me feeling sad, and now I can tell his story to help other people who are grieving, because it's tough for people to go to that place because they're stuck on the what happened, right? So I know I kind of went off on a tangent there.

Speaker 1:

And you know what's powerful about that is you bring a variety onto your show and that's similar to what I try to do. And your approach is a little bit different. Because those stories help people grind better, because if they're stuck, and maybe it is a certain experience that a person comes on and shares their story that may resonate with Paul Sam Jill, whoever right, and that's the purpose is to bring value on different viewpoints and resonates with whoever listens to the show. Right, and that's similar to what I try to do. Like, people are stuck or they get stuck, and the more tools you have on your belt that you can rely on, even if it's just listening to certain podcasts or certain message, whatever that is, if it resonates with you and something happens and you can tap into that experience of what you've heard, that's powerful. And, like you, my friend, I try to bring that value to this show. Right, I try to just bring coaches, entrepreneurs, podcast hosts it doesn't matter to me, right, because I believe this world is filled with wealth right, and it's not about me competing against the next coach or I got to make all of this money and things like that.

Speaker 1:

My approach is I have a value I think I'm really good at what I do. Yes, I love what I do and I help people get out of their own damn way, and I think I'm really damn good at it. Right, because we're into this autopilot, that we feel we have no choice and we have to accept the emotion in the story that we're telling ourselves in that moment. We have to accept it until it goes away. And my approach to that is no, you don't, no, you don't. If you change your viewpoint, change the narrative, you have power of choice and then, with that power of choice, you naturally take action. Love it, do.

Speaker 2:

You do, right. So if I can piggyback on that, so I turned, you can't really see I turned, shut up and grind into a book. Right Now, this isn't just a book to say, hey, I wrote a book, right, this is a literal, step-by-step guide to do what you just said. People take those stories. It's information. Those stories are information. So what are you going to do with the information? So there are people like I've tested this. I've tested this for probably the last, going on five years now. I've worked with people. I worked with a guy in Ireland, I worked with a woman in Africa, worked with the guy in Ireland, I worked with a woman in Africa, like all over the world, and went through these principles and I turned it into a book. So within this book, there's 13 workshops, right, I mean worksheets. I should say, and I'm going to turn each one of those worksheets into a workshop that I'm going to do live, right, but it's to take. I mean, okay, again, let's take my knee, my knee story. Actually, you know what? Let's do the grief one. Let's take that.

Speaker 2:

So I'll go through the first chapter is there's nothing wrong with you. That's the first chapter and that's all about self-acceptance. What's happened in your life. If you've wronged someone, accept it. If you cheated on your wife or husband, accept it. You know, if you stole from someone, accept it. If you assaulted someone, accept it. Like you get the point, just accept whatever happened in your life.

Speaker 2:

And now what are the lessons learned from each one? You know, because everything leaves teachable moments and you can say how can cheating on someone's spouse leave teachable moments? Because there were things that happened that led to it, and these are things that you can learn from right. So you find yourself, you know, you just walk into your car in a parking garage and you end up getting jumped. You know, is it your fault you got jumped? No, but what can we learn from that experience?

Speaker 2:

So this guide, it takes you through every inch of your stories and as people are going through this, things that are long buried in your subconscious mind are going to surface. Because when I was writing the book, I was like, oh, I forgot about this, like, ooh, I can throw this into the next speech, right. And then by the end of it, by the time you're done, you're going to have enough ammo to do whatever you want to do with your life If you want to become a coach, if you want to write your own book. You want to become a blogger, if you want to tell your stories on on podcasts or like on TV shows and stuff, and it gives you the outline for a keynote presentation If that's, if that's what you want to do. But it takes all of the messiest parts of your life. We attract the teachable moments and then I teach you how I teach people, how to use that as something inspirational, moving forward.

Speaker 1:

Well, listening to you, know your basic description of the book. I want to say this real talk that first principle that you said of acceptance. That's powerful in itself because when we're looking back at the past, whatever's going on in our lives and I'm assuming a situation that's really discomforting to you and you carry that acceptance of it, is what really helps you move forward. Right, and then I'll talk about this energy. If you're not accepting it, you're carrying some sort of guilt, and the guilt, the, the hurt, the um, disappointment, right, all of that it blocks your energy and in those moments of feeling that guilt, disappointment, you're stagnant, you're really not productive or you have one foot in and one foot out, but with acceptance and validation, because it's okay that the situation you went through was hard, it was bad Any person in that situation would probably feel the same way and you accept that Now there's more possibilities of action happening in that moment. That's why that one principle that you just shared is so powerful. What's the name of your book?

Speaker 2:

again, principle that you just shared is so powerful. Yes, what's the name of your book? Again, shut Up and Grind, same as the podcast. Yeah, it's available on Amazon Kindle and paperback.

Speaker 1:

Okay, where can they find your show?

Speaker 2:

They can find my show on really any place that I cast Amazon, google, spotify, apple, all of those If they want to catch it live, because I broadcast it live Tuesdays and Thursdays at 12 Eastern and you can catch it on Facebook or LinkedIn.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I have a lot of professionals that are listeners as well too. If they want to possibly get on the show, how do they find you to do that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so they can check out my profile on Podmatch, or they can just shoot me an email. Rob at robertbfostercom.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's great. That's great as we get ready to sign out. What lasting thoughts or nuggets would you like to leave the audience?

Speaker 2:

Do not by any means let anybody clip your wings. It drives me insane and, as you know, this show we started with a doctor trying to clip mine, telling me I was never going to run or jump again. That's one of the biggest things that I help people with and, like the subtitle of the book, is overcoming self-doubt and the fear of public speaking, because people, you have a story to tell, right, you have a gift to give, but society likes to cloud our gifts and then people end up feeling like they're not worthy or they have the imposter syndrome. But whatever it is that you want to accomplish, just start taking the steps to making it happen and you're going to see a world of doors that are going to open up right at your fingertips.

Speaker 1:

There it is my man there, it is my man, Robert B Foster, the great host of Shut Up and Grind podcast. Thank you, sir. I appreciate your presence here today.

Speaker 2:

My pleasure.

Speaker 1:

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