Let's Think About It Podcast

Navigating Life with Intuition and Positivity

• Morice Mabry • Season 2 • Episode 34

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Ever wondered how to navigate the delicate balance between skepticism and intuition? Join me, Coach Mo, as I welcome Rosemary Detrolio, a captivating retired school teacher turned Reiki practitioner and angel communicator. Discover how Rosemary transitioned from the classroom to the spiritual realm, offering guidance and energy work that empowers individuals to unlock their true potential. We tackle misconceptions about her work and emphasize the transformative power of free will and inner guidance over external advice.

Our conversation takes you through the journey of embracing doubt and trusting your instincts. Rosemary and I share the secrets behind using personal values as a compass to overcome self-doubt and align with your life's purpose. Learn how small, intentional steps, such as attending workshops, can lead to meaningful connections and opportunities for growth. We also highlight the invaluable role of coaching tools in turning knowledge into action, encouraging you to harness your inner wisdom to navigate life's challenges.

Finally, we explore the profound impact of positive thinking and spiritual connections in maintaining emotional balance in chaotic times. From my experiences seeing auras to expanding my spiritual guidance services during the COVID-19 pandemic, the discussion highlights the importance of staying committed to personal growth. Engage with us on this enlightening journey, and allow Rosemary's insights and my personal anecdotes to inspire you towards empowerment and self-improvement. Connect with us on social media for more inspiring content and continue your journey towards a more fulfilled and spiritually attuned life.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we embark on a journey of thoughtfulness and personal growth. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here to guide you through thought-promoting discussions that will inspire you to unlock your full potential. In each episode, we'll explore a wide range of topics, from self-discovery and mindfulness to goal-setting and achieving success. Together, we'll challenge conventional thinking and dive deep into the realms of possibility. Whether you're looking to find clarity in your personal or professional life, or seeking strategies to overcome obstacles, this podcast is your go-to source for insightful conversations and practical advice. So find a comfortable spot, chill and let's embark on this journey of self-improvement together. Remember, the power of transformation lies within you, and together we'll uncover the tools and insights you need to make it happen. So let's dive in. Welcome to another episode of the let's Think About it podcast. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here with another amazing guest. Her name is Rosemary Detrolio. Rosemary.

Speaker 2:

Hey, Mo. Great to see you again, Mo. It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 1:

Great to see you. One of the first things that I do when people come on my show is we need to check in where you're calling in from, where are you?

Speaker 2:

Hey, I am in Hope, new Jersey, in a tiny little town, and I'm actually 11 miles from New York, and excuse me, 60 miles from New York and 11 from the Pennsylvania water gap.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Born and raised in New Jersey. No, I was actually 30 minutes outside of New York City, in a very small town where I grew up years ago. So yeah, small town girl, but love the city vibe too.

Speaker 1:

You ever come to the West Coast.

Speaker 2:

I have never been to the West Coast. We're thinking of doing some more traveling now that my husband is retired and our next trip is going to be Italy, so we're excited about that. Nice, other states, mostly on the eastern seaboard.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. That's awesome. Tell my guests who you are, what you do.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you got it. So I'm a retired school teacher, 32 years in public education. I left that in 2014. That's when I retired and my business has been in operation for since 2000. And actually before that, and my main thing is I teach Reiki, I do energy work. My specialty is angel communication, guidance and readings for people, but I also have I also do workshops in person and on Zoom. I do self-study courses that are on my website and I love these one to one conversations that I do with my clients to help to guide them and open up, let's say, dormant gifts they have or just find life's purpose or direction. So that's the main thing that I've been really loving to do. And I'm also an author. I have 10 published books on Amazon.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. I heard readings.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

I want to dive into that really quick, because what are some misconceptions about the work that you do in reading?

Speaker 2:

Right, okay. So the first thing I would say is that people will say, oh, are you a psychic? I have psychic abilities, but when I'm channeling angels, I am actually connecting with the divine force. My angel and the person's angel are connecting and then I am able to channel a message for the person that asks me and the there's always free will. So for me, it's really important that a person understands that, if something doesn't seem to fit, to go back to the reading and look at it at another time and also take with them anything that resonates with them and feels true, because that's the direction the angels want them to understand first. And therefore someone calls me and says I don't know if I should leave my husband. That's not what I do. It's not up to me to tell someone what they're, what they're, what they should do in that realm. It is the guidance that they get from the angels, is always for their highest good and involves a lot of free will from the person to decide whether that information is going to be acted on or if they're going to wait on it. And that's where free will is so important.

Speaker 2:

Someone should not give everything away to a reader, this or that Some of my clients tell me oh, I've been to like eight readers and I have a tarot card reader and a this reader and a that reader, and to me that's a red flag, cause I would say, if you're getting information and you're following it and you're learning how to use your intuition and your inner guidance, you will not need 98 different people to run around to to tell you what to do. You've got to use your inner guidance and your connection with your angels and God and your guides to help you, and that's one of the things that I want people to know. I teach them to fish. I don't give them the fish. So it's part of my plan is to help people grow spiritually so that they can evolve and then do what I'm doing for them but do for themselves, and that's really important to me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, because something that really sticks out to me. You said free will and intuition right, absolutely. I feel that I'm a very intuitive type person. I'm self aware about my feelings and my spirit in certain moments. Why would a person need to see a reader like yourself if they already feel that they're very intuitive?

Speaker 2:

Sometimes it's just to trust their guidance, because oftentimes when I do a reading and someone like you is very intuitive, they'll say, oh my gosh, I knew that I was guided, like last week. And now it's showing up in the reading like you're telling me what I know. I'm like well, that's good, because that means you've been listening to your inner guidance. The other times that people would come to me is if they've have a difficult relationship happening and they keep hitting a wall and they're not sure what's going on.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes there's past life karma between two people. Our souls have been with each other. Before. It might've been a family group issue. It may be something else they need to clear and they can't see it and sometimes they're like oh, that's why I'm having trouble with my brother-in-law, my husband, whatever it's this issue that we didn't clear from the past and I've had that happen with quite a few readings that I've done and after you went after, they understand it. It it's oh, then I can let it go. That was the past and now this is now. So I don't have to have that weird feeling about so and it helps people to understand.

Speaker 1:

I consider myself an energy leadership coach and what that means is when you're in surround self awareness and when you're feeling like the frustration, when you're feeling like the frustration, the worries, the doubt, anxiety, depression when you're in that realm of feeling that emotion, your energy is typically down.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, and I always say that you're distracted.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

You're distracted.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, static energy, yeah, yes, yeah, static energy, yeah. One of the things that you just reminded me about is when someone is in those low vibration energy fields, it's almost like they're walking around with glasses that are dirty and whatever they look at is colored by this perception of I'm not good enough, no one loves me, I'm sad, I'm not worthy. God is not here. How come I went through this? Why me and all those energies are low vibration energies to a person that doesn't have that faith and understanding that all these things happen so you can learn from them, and they don't happen to you. They happen for you.

Speaker 2:

So it's understanding that whatever you go through is for your spiritual growth and for your help. It's not to beat you up or to punish you. It is because you're supposed to learn from these things that we haven't learned from, maybe in the past, of our soul's energy. So it's really teaching people that these things, if you like, rewrite the story for yourself. That's a really powerful thing to do, instead of saying, oh, my husband was so mean he divorced me. It's. What did you learn from your independence from the situation? How did you take that gift and learn from it, instead of letting it drag you down. Don't let that take up real estate for the rest of your life in your brain. You want to clear the way so you can move ahead, and that's really the guidance right.

Speaker 1:

And the point of that too right While you're dealing with that pain that's the distraction, because you're, you're, you're still in it, coughed in the pain. Yes, it takes the self-awareness to take a step back to say absolutely what am I learning from this situation to help forward you out of that energy set?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, and I think it doesn't mean that your grief is lesser, that you shouldn't feel that sadness. We all lose people. We all go through trauma in life and part of it is feeling it deeply but then setting it aside and understanding the lesson in it. Like I remember when I lost my mom, when my dad passed, I was really close to him and it was like so traumatic because I love my father dearly. But what I do is I always think of the gifts he gave me. He had great laughter, he was hysterical, he would loved everybody and to me that I was honored by his presence and I was also honored to be able to help him at his hour of death. And to me that was the gift, even though I miss him terribly in the physical form. You have to find the gift of whatever you go through to be able to move forward. So that's like the same message that you give your clients. I know what's in it.

Speaker 1:

I think this is just a powerful conversation. How do you like when someone comes to you right, and or maybe they don't even come to you, but they're skeptical about the work that you do?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, love the skeptics, I love the skeptics.

Speaker 1:

Take me through. How do you work through that process?

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing. So I had a client come to me a couple of years ago and he was a teacher in my school and I knew the guy was very well respected. And he comes in and he goes I'm only here for Reiki session with you because my spine doctor told me to go to you. Now, I knew his spine doctor because I trained him with Reiki, although we didn't use it in his practice. So I said, oh okay. I said just relax and lay down. You don't have to do anything, just lay there. You don't have to believe anything, just relax. So by the time I got to his knees he opens his eyes. He looks at me and goes what did you just do to me? I'm like what do you mean? He says I felt this rush of energy from the top of my head all the way through my feet. He says, and I'm amazed, what are you doing to me? I said I'm just letting the of this Reiki work on your body. After that he booked three sessions and he wrote me a huge apology note about how he was a skeptic before he met me. So I thought that was super cool. So I always say the proof's in the pudding.

Speaker 2:

The other thing is that skeptics keep people honest, like it's okay to be skeptical, because I always tell people if you never tasted chocolate, how does that person know what chocolate tastes like? Until they have a taste of it. Hold back and just see what you think you know. I would say start with a class, start with a workshop, start with a session, do something that that is like tipping your toe in to see what you feel and what you experience. And if you have a good experience, then continue. But use your gut, because some people will tell me oh, I went to this person and I got a really bad feeling but I didn't trust it and then I was very disappointed. I said you know what? Use your gut, use your intuition. If it feels like it's a good step forward, then continue.

Speaker 1:

I remember someone had reached out to me. I always be posting like educational things on LinkedIn and stuff like that. But someone had reached out to me and said, mo, how do you per se, when you feel the inner critic, the doubt, how do you navigate to that desired state that you always talk about? And I was like man, that's a great question. It's a great question. It is a great question, but here's what I do. This is what Mo do. In that moment of doubt, I have the awareness to know that my values is being distracted.

Speaker 1:

That's really good yeah absolutely, and let's just say I have to make a decision and integrity is one of my. Me too one of my high values that I lean on me too in that moment of doubt, if integrity is very important to me, I remind myself what's really the right thing to do in this. Yeah, that's right, and that, naturally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, me away from the doubt or out of the doubt, that's, that's awesome, and I'm more in a confident state of being just yes, I'll tell you, when I was in that same scared moment is when I started channeling the angel realm and I I started letting people know about it and then someone came to me. He says can you do a reading for me and believe me? Like, for that moment I'm, like I don't know, I don't know, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. And what the angels told me is we don't really care about your ego and what you think other people will think of you. We want you to be the mouthpiece for our words. And I went, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 2:

And then after that I wasn't scared because I knew that if I had complete trust and surrendered, I can do my business, I could do what I have to do, and the right things will happen and the right people will come to me, and if it's not the right people, they're not going to show up. So I just really believe, when you're in alignment, you are aligned with the people and places that are going to either teach you a lesson or you're going to help that person move forward in some way. And that's really what I believe and it happens. I love attraction, man. That's good stuff, very strong.

Speaker 1:

It is and one of the other things that I share with clients around coaching and probably in your practice when you're doing readings. It's like we're a tool. We provide gifts for people to utilize our work as a tool so that they can get out of their own way by any means.

Speaker 1:

you come to a few sessions, you work with me for whatever, you still are going to experience certain doubts, certain uncomfortable situations. It's up to you to have the awareness to implement the tools and the resources that you obtain from coaching to implement when those situations come forth again in the future. That's right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's. The powerful thing about the work that we do is that we're providing these resources and tools, and everybody is different in how they take this information in from us, but it's the experience of going through that with us that creates your path in the future, because you will have that ability, moving forward, to tap into that experience.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I believe that it's the action. So people can read everything and know it up here, but unless they put it into action, then it just remains an idea. So any idea that's not processed through becomes just an idea. So again, I know both of us give our clients tools to use, and then what's really good is sometimes somebody knows something and they're just not sure how to implement it. So we see something like in a different angle that can shift them into a different realm of thinking.

Speaker 2:

And I've done this too with not only the sessions I do, but through workshops and classes. Like people say, I knew it, but I didn't know how to ask. I didn't know where that would come, that information would shift me or how. The other thing is I've had a lot of people tell me oh my gosh, where were you 30 years ago when I was a kid and I couldn't ask about this stuff? I don't know, I was probably still figuring out myself, but it's good. It's good that there's people that do what we do to help people shift, and I think that's really vital and important right now.

Speaker 1:

Mary, take me through the discovery process for you, when you realized that this was a gift and what was that shift to go down this road?

Speaker 2:

So when I was four, when I was like two and a half years old, I remember that the kitchen table was above my head and my mother was talking to me and I'm looking at her like why are you talking to me like a child? Clearly I'm an adult. And then I looked down at my little body and I went oh, I'm back again. So I, like really young and I was raised Roman Catholic, by the way, but really young I knew I was recycled in to do something and people would always come to me for advice. Even when I was like seven or eight years old, I'd have people sit down and ask me stuff.

Speaker 2:

And as I went through life, this channeling happened. I took I have a master's in education, so one of the last classes I took for my education was called stress management for kids, and I remember going into this really quiet state because we were told we couldn't talk to anybody. We're supposed to be silent for the next two hours and walk around campus. I started seeing auras and energy fields around people. So that's the night. I went home and I prayed and I said, god, I'm supposed to be doing something else. I'm not sure what it is. And then, all of a sudden I got the angel that stepped in and gave me my first reading back in 1993. And that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

And then I knew like, all right, I know what I have to do. I'm not sure how I'm getting there, but I'm just going to keep taking steps to figure out my business. And I had no idea, I just jumped right in. I got my business name back in 93. I learned Ray key, which is energy work, and I set up that and I just kept going forward and I kept expanding and expanding. And during COVID is when I started doing like my, my zoom things, and I expanded, doing things online rather than just in person. So it kept being like a revolving door kept going bigger and bigger to to encompass more of what I thought people needed and what I was guided to tell them. So that's how it started. I'm glad I answered you, but a long time ago it started as what I would tell you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, that's great, that's awesome. You also, when you first came on, you mentioned a book. Tell us a little bit about your book.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I have a lot of books out there, so my spiritual ones are divine Messengers, inspired a Book from the Heart, and Wisdom Sages and Angels. The last two are workbooks. I have a fairy tale called the Hermit of Laramie. For adults, I have three middle grade fiction books and I have three primary picture textbooks and I'm working on other ones as well. All my books are on Amazon. They're also listed on my website, rosemarydcom in grow your spirit books, which is my side-by-side you know thing. So I do some school visits and such and love that too. Love working with the kids.

Speaker 1:

So many books, a lot of words but okay, you just named off a lot of books, right?

Speaker 2:

I did.

Speaker 1:

Which is great Outstanding.

Speaker 2:

Which one do you want to know?

Speaker 1:

about Great job. Really appreciate that. But you got my audience. We got some listeners as. Yeah, this is cool, but I'm not sure what's that? One book that just gives them some basic insights of energy, spirits and things like that.

Speaker 2:

I would start with Divine Messengers, because that tells people about my path and purpose and how I revolve through the angels and Reiki. Knowing the weird stuff that happened to me, people will feel more comfortable with the stuff that they go through. And then, after that, I would go to my workbooks, my spiritual workbooks, because they can read a little something and write their own thoughts, which is a very good way to nail down your thought process and your metacognition about what you've just been through. So I would start with divine messengers and then I would click on the next spiritual book, which is the workbook, and then the next one after that if they find it helpful to them.

Speaker 1:

If I'm a potential client, what do I look like coming to you? Who is that?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I have different people. A lot of the women in my group are probably between the ages of 30 and 65. Some men will come in, but usually after their wives have been seeing me for other things, they'll bring their husbands and then I'll do a reading for the husband or Reiki, but it's mainly women only. Because women are, I think, are more open sometimes for help than maybe men would be, but then the men start coming in. So that would be typical. My typical person is either seeking direction or they're on a spiritual path already and need more guidance. I have different age groups and needs.

Speaker 1:

And are the readings done virtually or in person?

Speaker 2:

If it is a transformational talk session, that is a talk session on Zoom, and it's not written. If it is an angel reading, a specific angel reading, it takes me two weeks to channel and it's usually seven or eight pages long of channeled information specific to the person's questions and what they need. When it's done, then I Zoom with them and then I send them the written communication.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Did that explain it, and that's on Zoom. Unless they're really local then I could be in person, but most times those are on Zoom.

Speaker 1:

Okay when you are working with a client. Are you working with your clients through your books that are published on Amazon, in the workbooks, or is it something totally separate?

Speaker 2:

I sell the books in my office and if I do a talk in public I'll bring the books. I sell them there as well. But the main way people find me is usually just searching. They'll search local people in my area. They might search Reiki or readings or angels, so there's many ways that they will find me and my things. If you Google my name, you're going to see a lot of things pop up, because I've been writing for blogs and I've been on a lot of podcasts and I've been on radio. So they'll find my name somewhere if they Google me, which is really nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you also have a podcast and a show, right.

Speaker 2:

I do. Tuesday morning, 10 Eastern, the Light Walker's Path Grow your Spirit with Rosemary, airs on Bold Brave TV, and then it also goes to other streaming platforms after that, and what I usually do is I take the podcast and I also put it on my own website, so that way, if they need to find it quickly and they want to see a guest I had already they can look around and click and see it for my website too.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. What are some lasting thoughts that you would like to share about?

Speaker 2:

So I would tell people to don't focus on the negative. Turn off that news. You can read headlines. I know there's weird stuff going on. You could read the headlines, but don't let whatever happens in the world drag you down personally, because we only have control over our own emotions and our immediate environment. You know that and the people that are in it.

Speaker 2:

So if you can keep yourself uplifted and be a positive source of light to other people, then they can do that for people in their close circle. And then it continues. We spread it, keep positive and say prayer. I always talk to God every morning. Hey, you help me out. Right, I review, like, how I did my day. What did I act in complete integrity? Did I hurt anyone's feelings? And I go through the whole thing because I have to be in good alignment to be able to help other people with their alignment.

Speaker 1:

so you said prayer and I know we're about to close, but yeah, you just triggered something okay that's just like certain situations it's really tough, it's really hard and then go into prayer without yeah, I would say what's your take on that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and a lot of people do have doubt, and sometimes it's because of of secular religion and the way they were raised with fear related to their faith. I would just say I talk to god as if god is my friend, because I believe that this energy of God is in everything and that we are guided. So when I talk I might say hey, god, I need some assistance here. Send me your angels. If you want a traditional prayer, then you can go back to our father, hail Mary, whatever prayer that is in someone's faith.

Speaker 2:

But I've worked with people from all different backgrounds, even ones that told me they were atheists I've done readings for and they didn't stay atheist too long after I read for them, which is good. But I just think whatever resonates with you, it doesn't have to be a traditional prayer. If that doesn't feel right for a person, it could just say higher power, the creator, all that is. Whatever you see, your God, as is what we have in us that's called our soul. So we're all connected. We're all connected to each other and to this great light.

Speaker 1:

That's that's so and then, lastly, you, you meet I'm assuming that you meet a lot of different people. Yes, whether they come on your show, you go on their networking. Are you able to read certain energies with people as you initially meet them?

Speaker 2:

Yes, usually the people that have been on my show. I usually meet them beforehand and I know their vibe. There's a few of them I haven't met with and said I want to be on your show and that's fine, but most of the people I have on have a really good, positive, like energy vibe about them. It's the same way that I read people when I'm in public. If someone comes up to me, I can feel their energy or their hesitancy and it's just a natural ability that we all have and I had it really young and it's it served me quite well really.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so final. I promise it's the final question what was my energy like when you first met me?

Speaker 2:

It's. It's very loving. You have a very kind heart and what I was going to tell you is when I first met you, I think I saw either pink or blue around you. So you had communication and you have a very kind and loving heart and I felt it. When I met you, I was like, oh, I love this guy. He's cool, you have a very kind, accepting way about you. So, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, thank you. Welcome there it is everyone Yo there it is there she is, and thank you so much Thank you. Thank you so much for coming on today. Thank you so much for coming on today.

Speaker 2:

It's been such a pleasure. Thank you so much. I loved speaking to you today.

Speaker 1:

Have a great day.

Speaker 2:

You too, Thank you Mo.

Speaker 1:

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