Let's Think About It Podcast
Welcome to the Let's Think About It Podcast with Morice (Coach Mo) Mabry! Are you ready to break free from fear, doubt, and uncertainty to unlock your true potential? Join Coach Mo on a transformative journey as we tackle the barriers hindering your personal growth. In each episode, we engage in insightful conversations with certified coaches, career professionals, and thriving entrepreneurs. Together, we uncover practical strategies to overcome self-imposed limitations and cultivate resilience. Gain clarity, boost confidence, and thrive in the face of uncertainty. Coach Mo, an Associate Certified Coach (ACC) accredited by the International Coaching Federation (ICF) and a published author, serves as your guide on this empowering quest for self-discovery and growth. Through mindfulness and mindset mastery, we empower you to navigate the inner critic and life's challenges to seize opportunities for success. Tune in to the Let's Think About It Podcast to equip yourself with the tools and inspiration needed to embrace uncertainty, conquer fear, tame the inner critic, and chart a course towards personal fulfillment. Start your journey to greatness today!
Let's Think About It Podcast
Balancing Motherhood and Leadership: A Deep Dive with Doris Jackson-Shazier
Have you ever pondered the intersection of motherhood and leadership? 🤔👩👧👦 @Doris Jackson-Shazier joins me, Coach Mo, for an enlightening conversation that bridges the gap between nurturing a family and steering a professional team. Doris, with her unique blend of corporate and entrepreneurial insights, pulls back the curtain on creating environments where empathy, patience, and clear boundaries set the stage for both high accountability and high morale. 🌟👩💼
Our discussion takes you through her life's chapters—from her geographical roots to the diverse experiences of raising four children—all while balancing the scales of personal and professional commitments. 🌍👶👧👦👦
The courage to be authentic can sometimes feel like a high wire act, especially in a professional setting where conformity is often the norm. Doris and I tackle the nuances of coaching strategies that not only encourage individuality but also respect the confines of workplace culture. 🎭💼 We share stories of personal triumph over adversity, like battling the stigmas of first-generation college graduates and juggling the complexities of parenthood in the workforce. These narratives weave a rich tapestry of hope and demonstrate the resilience necessary to thrive against the odds. 💪🎓👩👧👦
Moreover, we delve into the profound influence of gratitude on our mental and emotional health, uncovering how simple acts of appreciation can shift perspectives and lift spirits. 🙏❤️
Wrapping up, we step into the shoes of someone who dared to leap from the security of corporate life into the uncertainty of entrepreneurship. Doris and I explore the emotional landscape of such a drastic change, discussing the vital role of family support and the personal evolution that comes with pursuing passionate work. 🏢➡️🚀 Doris and I celebrate her mentee's ascent to Retail Manager of the Year and Doris's own milestone in authoring "Raising Justice," our conversation is a heartfelt ode to the invisible grind behind every success story. 🏆📚
This episode is an inspirational blueprint for anyone standing at the precipice of their dreams, ready to take that jump into the unknown. 🌠✨
Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we embark on a journey of thoughtfulness and personal growth. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here to guide you through thought-promoting discussions that will inspire you to unlock your full potential. In each episode, we'll explore a wide range of topics, from self-discovery and mindfulness to goal-setting and achieving success. Together, we'll challenge conventional thinking and dive deep into the realms of possibility. Whether you're looking to find clarity in your personal or professional life, or seeking strategies to overcome obstacles, this podcast is your go-to source for insightful conversations and practical advice. So find a comfortable spot, chill and let's embark on this journey of self-improvement together. Remember, the power of transformation lies within you, and together we'll uncover the tools and insights you need to make it happen. So let's dive in. Welcome to another episode of the let's Think About it podcast. I'm your host, Coach Mo, and I'm here with another special guest. Her name is Doris Jackson Shazier.
Speaker 2:Doris, how are you, my sister, I am doing well. Thank you for such an enthusiastic introduction.
Speaker 1:That's how the let's Think About it podcast rolls. The first question that I ask my guests is where are you checking in from? What part of the country are you at?
Speaker 2:So right now I am checking in from rainy Orlando, florida, today.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay, east Coast, east Coast Born and raised.
Speaker 2:Born and raised on the East Coast. I was born in Orlando, raised in Miami, Florida, Dade County, and now I reside just outside of Orlando.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice, definitely happy to have you today. So tell my audience who you are, what you do, a little bit about your background.
Speaker 2:All right. So now that's a really loaded question. So again, I'm Doris Jackson. She's here.
Speaker 2:I like to put my titles in the order of importance for me, and so for me that's mom, that's wife, that's leadership coach, management consultant, and now I am a new author, so super excited about that. I sit before you today with about 20 years of corporate field, restaurant, retail, logistics experience, and most recently, about a year ago, I took the very brave step to leave the structure of corporate America and go into entrepreneurship full-time. So it's an exciting season for me. I'm checking some of those boxes that I just couldn't check because I was just so busy for so long, and so, yeah, so I'm in an exciting time as an entrepreneur. I'm a mom of four. I have a very interesting lineup. I have one that just graduated college two weeks ago, one that is going to senior year, so I have a 12th grader. I have one going to sixth grade and I just went to a pre-K graduation on Tuesday because now I have one going to kindergarten. So I have four kids in four different stages of life all at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, though. That's awesome, and I can see that you're an influential role model to your kids, because they see how active you are in the presence of the leadership acumen that you bring to the table. And then the entrepreneurship what a role model. That's just awesome, thank you. So how did your leadership journey begin? Tell us about that.
Speaker 2:So I like to tell people that my first leadership title was mommy. I think oftentimes, as women, we forget or we underestimate our roles as mothers and we don't recognize that as our first leadership position. We're responsible for the nurturing, the guiding, the development of a little being.
Speaker 2:And there's a lot that comes into your life and once you get that title. So if I had to say my first leadership role and that journey in the leadership would definitely have been becoming a mom. I am the oldest of my siblings and so I grew up as a leader. I grew up understanding the impact of my actions, that there was someone looking up to me all the time and a good sense of responsibility. Professionally, I landed my first leadership role pretty young. Professionally, I landed my first leadership role pretty young. I was still in college, 19, 20 years old. I got my first kind of supervisory type role where I helped manage in a logistics company. It just took off from there. So I've had roles such as I've been a manager, a store manager, a district manager, a regional manager and then at a director level position in a company and as my influence and territory expanded I learned different things about myself and how to lead others.
Speaker 1:So you mentioned leadership started from when Thayen as a mom first. How does that connect over into the professional life? What was like your, what's your big takeaway over into the professional life? What was like your, what's your big takeaway in that crossover that you can share with women who are aspiring to be leaders, to make that connection for themselves?
Speaker 2:Yeah, again, I think it takes some of the same qualities. When you're in management, you are a nurturer, so the same way you nurture your children, the level of empathy you need to display.
Speaker 1:Now I get it. We're not going to get it confused with your employees are different than, necessarily, your family.
Speaker 2:There is a distinction. However, some of the same characteristics or competencies that you use to lead and influence people are the same. You still need to be empathetic, you still have to seek to understand, you still have to exercise patience, you still have to be a good listener, you have to practice forgiveness, you have to be able to extend grace All of those things I think we associate with just being at home or being at church or being in our community, when they really are impactful to the dynamic you create in the workforce. One of the things that I specialize in teaching people is how to create high accountability, high morale environments. So how do you set the right expectations? People understand their priorities, they know their responsibilities and they're hitting their goals while maintaining good morale, and I do that by practicing some of the things that I do at home, at work.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's dive a little deeper into that. What does those practices look like? So like at home accountability with your daughters. How does that translate into your philosophy in accountability in the workplace?
Speaker 2:So for me, I try and begin with a curious mindset. I do the same thing at work, at home. If my kids do anything, I have one daughter and three sons. If they do anything, the first thing I'm going to do is try and seek to understand where's that thought process coming from? What made them do it? What were their intentions? Is to say, not what you thought. So sometimes we assign judgment and intentions to people when we don't even seek to understand why they did it.
Speaker 2:I remember growing up and my mom would say I know you were trying to do this or I know you were trying to do that. That's leading with assumptions and you're assigning intent to my actions rather than asking me what my thought process was when I did it. That's the only way you're gonna teach me and effectively redirect me if you understand and help me change my thought process. So, with my children, I tend to be the parent that I'm human. I experience the emotion, but I try and exercise composure.
Speaker 2:Why did you do that? Help me to understand what you were thinking when that happened. Same thing I would do at work. Hey, help me to understand why you made that decision. Same thing I would do at work. Hey, help me to understand why you made that decision. Then, once I understand that thought process, I'm able to either guide them, redirect them, influence maybe that decision making. But now I'm coming from a place of understanding versus assumption, and what it does is it creates a more comfortable relationship. The person feels heard, they feel that I understand them, and then they're more likely to take my redirection, because at least I tried to understand their why. And so the same strategy works at home with children, and it works the same way in the corporate space.
Speaker 1:So to make total sense, because everything that you're saying because I'm a leadership executive coach myself Same process Understand being active listening, asking open-ended questions and powering questions. So it's good to hear that I'm in alignment with your style. So I appreciate that. But my next question for you as a leader and in the ranks and all the leadership clients that you work with, what do you see, from your eyes and where you sit, some of the biggest challenges that leaders face right now and how are you supporting them?
Speaker 2:There's quite a few things that are rising right now. A lot of people are dealing with toxic workspaces. A lot of people seem to be coming in with what I would call corporate PTSD almost, and I'm having to have them partner with not only me but a counselor. So it's hey. We could be much more effective if you have someone that's doing therapy with you along with my coaching, because they're coming in with more of the mental health challenges or how to endure or thrive in these toxic environments. So I'm seeing a lot of that.
Speaker 2:If I had to Pick out one thing in particular that I'm definitely it seems like it's a reoccurring thing that I'm inspiring is courage.
Speaker 2:There's so much fear like it's such a climate of fear in some of the positions they're working in, so I'm almost coaching them into how to be courageous, how to be authentic, how to find that balance between being themselves and they feel like they have to play the game. Or they feel like they can't be 100% themselves at work or having difficult conversations, or afraid to redirect people, or they don't want to lose the relationship, or they think that to disagree means that now they don't have any relationship because they've grown up in a work culture where disagreeing or having a difference of opinion wasn't respected. You were seen more as the villain or an opponent if you didn't subscribe to whatever everyone else is saying. So they haven't been in like psychologically safe environments. So it's a lot of kind of partnering them with a counselor to make sure that their mental health is good so that my coaching can be more effective and really talking a lot about courage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that and that comes up a lot in my coaching as well, in the organization I work in as well to just fear, to have number one, those difficult conversations and fear and holding people accountable because the amount of judgment that we carry is scary, because they're trying to project out the worst case scenario that will happen, but it hasn't even happened yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and man, I'm telling you I have to refocus them back to being present because you're worrying about something that hasn't happened. There'll be time for that.
Speaker 1:Once it happens, then you do all of that, but worrying it now and it hasn't happened.
Speaker 2:There's a waste of your time.
Speaker 1:And what are your thoughts on gratitude? How does that play a role into your coaching style?
Speaker 2:I think gratitude is so important to us mentally and emotionally. When you can consistently ground yourself or redirect yourself back to focusing on what you have versus what you don't, you do your mental, physical, emotional health a great service. So I think gratitude is important because we live in such a culture where the focus is either AR weakness, be what we don't have, see what we're trying to get, but it's just focus on whatever's missing. And being rooted in gratitude has a way of again redirecting you back to what you do have and allow you to appreciate that more. So I think gratitude is so important to the psyche, and then gratitude as a verb is important. Being able to recognize and show appreciation to others is tremendous. It's transformative in work environments and in homes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think when we talk about modeling the way, I'm going to go here modeling the way and I think that's important, especially with your four kids being that role model and being as successful as you are right now. And we mentioned fear and I know you've come across certain fears that that came up as, even as a mother and on a professional side of things, what's your approach in overcoming fear, adversity, and how do you role model that for your kids?
Speaker 2:So I like to refer to myself as a professional overcomer.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I really have lived the life of I'll bend, but I don't break, and I've modeled that for my children. So in my new book, raising Justice, you really get to learn almost how imperfect I am. But all the things that I had to overcome in raising my daughter her name is Justice, so she's my first child, but it started long before then. It started growing up in Liberty City of Miami If you've ever watched First 48, I know family and friends that have been featured on there and that's the neighborhood that I grew up in, a very rough environment, and so in high school I made the decision to go to the school in Coral Gables by the University of Miami. So that was a bus, a train ride and walking to school every day for those four years.
Speaker 2:But I've lived a life of overcoming. I'm the first generation college graduate in my family. I went off to college and by my sophomore year I found myself pregnant, and so I had to overcome that and working full time and completing my degree, and so I started very early with having the responsibility of mom while also completing my education and building my career. So one thing that I'm very good about, and I don't think our parents or the generations before of us did. Enough of this is talk about it Like they have endured things, they've went through things and they've been taught that you just don't talk about it. And that's what I'm different. My kids are well aware of all it takes for them to live the life that they're living now. I've made it very clear and transparent because I want them to have an appreciation not only for me as their mom, but for the things that they have in life.
Speaker 2:It didn't come, it didn't fall out of the sky for them. Someone worked really hard for them to live the life that they have. I've modeled that. And when it comes to overcoming, I think it's a belief. You have to have a belief of hope. And when it comes to overcoming, I think it's a belief that you have to have a belief of hope. You have to know and believe that nothing is as bad as it seems, that things will always get better, and you can't focus on the fact that it's raining. Don't wait for it to stop raining.
Speaker 1:Just learn how to dance in the rain. Interesting because, let's say, a person on the professional side comes from an environment where worry, fear, is pretty heavy and they don't know how to just switch to the positivity side of things and be optimistic.
Speaker 2:How do you work with those type of clients who has a fearful mindset in their leadership style? So I think we have to explore the root cause of the fear, and is this something that they're carrying on with them from past or is this something that is what's contributing to the fear? Is the legitimate things that are happening in the environment that they're in? I'm going to ask them how open they are to changing their environment, because they have complete control over where they go, and either they want to be in that space and be fearful or they can be outside of that phase and take on some other different type of challenges. For me personally, I chose to leave the environment that was causing me thoughts that weren't conducive to my lifestyle, and I decided that I would rather be figuring it out over here than continue to figure it out in this space, and so I'm going to be open to exploring Again. They have control over their environment. Why do they think they need to be somewhere that causes them that type of thought process or stress, and what other options are available to them and helping to explore them.
Speaker 1:I know we're talking about coaching and influence, but how does that connect to mentorship and how do you utilize mentorship in your coaching strategies?
Speaker 2:Okay, mentorship is twofold for me.
Speaker 2:And when I'm coaching, coaching the client kind of leads that process a little bit.
Speaker 2:In mentorship it feels a little bit more like consulting in terms of I'm there to help, be an advocate, a sponsor, but also answer questions in a different capacity. I know that in mentorships they're counting on my experience, counting on kind of my insights and my advice a little bit. So mentorship for me is a different, more closely knitted relationship. I'm taking this person under my wing and I'm assuming a different type of responsibility for their success, but also I am pulling out of them a little bit the things that helping them to realize what they really want, if they really want it, and my role is to expose them to those things. So for me mentoring is more. It allows me to be more transparent. It allows them to stand shoulder by shoulder with me as I am guiding and leading them through a process. The coaching relationship is a little bit more informal in terms of I'm helping them more so to create the solutions versus guiding them through creating their own solutions. That's what mentorship looks like for me.
Speaker 1:Tell me about a success story, whether it's on the mentoring side of things or the coaching side.
Speaker 2:So one of one of my stories that I'm really proud of I have a few, but the first one that just came to my mind is a young woman that she moved across states and moved into the market that I was, at that time, the district manager of at that time the district manager of and I coached her for a few years and I remember telling her at the beginning of that year that the store, the setup, everything that was happening, environment, had the right conditions to be the manager of the year and she's kind of whatever.
Speaker 2:And so we go through this year. I couldn't have had a better student in terms of. She took feedback I can be sometimes persnickety, like very detailed she just took the feedback, she worked, she created a plan and she worked that plan Just a good student. And, sure enough, we get to the end of the year and she's the retail manager of the year for the district and then she's the retail manager of the region and then she becomes a retail manager of the region and then she becomes a retail manager of the company out of 700 something locations.
Speaker 2:And I'm telling you I was like a proud mama because I walked around the conference that my manager is the manager of the company and it's something that we talked about in the beginning, and just to have that vision and then to have that follow through with her, it was just an amazing experience.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Both of our. Both of us have now moved on to. She's in a new company. Now I am doing my entrepreneurship thing and I had my book launch last week and she drove hours to show up to my book launch and surprise me and the tear, like my parents are there, everybody's there. But literally my tears swelled, like my eyes swelled when I saw her because I just couldn't believe it. I'm like what are you doing here? I saw her at a launch and I just wanted to be here for you because you always said you would be an author, and so just to know that I impacted her in the same way that she impacted me was just, it was like a full circle moment. It was really good.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Congratulations, and I think this is a good time to pivot, because you mentioned author book launch. Tell us about this book.
Speaker 2:I am so proud of this book.
Speaker 1:So I've been a person that I've written, I've started about 10 books I started my first book when I was 15 and I life has been life and I hadn't completed one, so this is the first time I completed a book.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I'm so excited about it, and then I could have dealt right into creating a book that I felt was attached to corporate and leveraging it that way, but that wasn't what was on my heart. My heart was to talk about motherhood first. I believe that you always begin in and then go out, and so this book is probably one of the most personal books that I have in my lineup right now. My other books focus on coaching and high accountability and high morale, but this one, focused in the home and it talks about again the lessons that I learned through motherhood and how and I tie in how I learned these leadership qualities in raising justice. So the book title it has a dual meaning.
Speaker 2:My daughter's name is Justice, so I'm literally raising justice, but also it talks about what it means to nurture and develop a child with the desire to do things the right way, but more of a conscious parenting.
Speaker 2:So Raising Justice is also about my style of parenting, how I became the parent that I didn't necessarily experience, how I wanted to be the person. I wanted my kids to be able to come to me in a manner that maybe I didn't feel comfortable, coming to my parents in that way, in a manner that maybe I didn't feel comfortable coming to my parents in that way, and how I cultivated and built that relationship. I like to tell people that I was the 19-year-old pregnant girl walking the campus and I got the stares and oh my gosh, she's pregnant. And the whispers, but I produced the 19-year-old college graduate. My daughter just graduated with her bachelor's in business. She'll be going on to complete her master's in data analytics and is launching into the world very successfully, and so I'm very proud of that, and so this book tells the journey and the story of how the 19 year old pregnant college girl produced a 19 year old college graduate.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That's amazing. I'm so hyped for you. Thank you. When does it launch?
Speaker 2:All right. So I'm in pre. I'm having my pre-sale event right now, and so the book is going to be available on Amazon, apple, google and Barnes Noble starting June 27th, which is my 20-year anniversary of being a mom or you can say Justice's birthday. But yeah, it'll be available nationwide June 27th, but right now it is available during pre-sale, and anyone that purchases the book from my website, doris Jackson Shaziercom, will receive their book autographed by me. So I'm going to pray over it and personally autograph those books before I send them out If you purchase them during the pre-sale.
Speaker 1:I got to give me one. I got to give me one. I'm speaking with big time, the big timer here. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:And can I add one other thing? I'm happy that you said that because the book is modeled through a mother-daughter relationship, people think that it's only for women or mothers or daughters. This book is for everyone. I'm excited. When I did the book launch, I had men and women there and the men were speaking about how I read the first chapter and how much that chapter touched them. So if you're seeking to understand a woman in your life a little bit better, or how do I cultivate a closer relationship with my children, the same principles apply whether it's a girl or a boy, whether you're a man or a woman, a girl or a boy, whether you're a man or a woman. These are still practical strategies and things that you can utilize to create a better connection with those around you?
Speaker 1:Absolutely, because I have a 10-year-old daughter and I just admire my wife and my daughter's relationship and the bond that they have, which is different from the bond that I have with her. He got the father daughter but how they, their bond, that mother daughter bond, is just a different type of bond and I admire seeing it and how my wife is influencing her from a leadership standpoint of everything he was just saying, from a feminine standpoint, just across the board, and I truly do appreciate that. So I support your book and that site. Anyway, what was the moment? When was that light bulb light up? Like? This is what I want to do. I'm going to write this book. Tell me about that experience that, like, really took it to that next level to decide to do this.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I started writing a book at 15. So one of those things where you have, if money didn't matter, this is what you would do, and so I lived my life for a long time knowing that money mattered. So I did what it took to pay my bills when I left corporate. I was a six-figure earner and things like that and I walked away from it all. So I would say what really sparked my change in thinking and gave me the courage to really step aside from why does money have to matter? You can still. You can make money anywhere.
Speaker 2:But what was the light bulb switch for me was during COVID. Much like everybody else, covid made you reevaluate what's going on in your life after just the traumatic experience we all went through collectively. But I got COVID and I was hospitalized for about seven days and then I had to do oxygen treatment for about three months, and so it sat me down as a person that's consistently traveling, busy just doing stuff. But it sat me down and in that quietness I had to wrestle with my thoughts and really, what is it that I want to do with this life?
Speaker 2:Because I almost lost it. And if I had lost my life, oh man, people would read my resume. But I'm more than what I do. That's not who I am, that's just what I do. And you're not going to read my resume at my funeral. My kids I don't want them to remember how much I want to remember. I'm a hard worker, but not how much I worked.
Speaker 2:And so being sat down in that experience allowed me the time to really think about am I, are my actions aligned with my purpose and what I really want to be doing? And so I started then really thinking about it. I didn't make a move. Didn't make a move, but really started thinking about it. And what I like to say is the opportunity presented itself when I was in more of an experimental role. At the time, my company created it for me to work on a special project, and I knew it was a temporary role, and they came and said hey, the work, the role, is ending. We have another role for you, or you can, whatever. I'm like what's the package? Cause? I took it as a sign like give me the package, the other role you're offering me. I've done it before. I can do it with my eyes closed.
Speaker 1:I've made this company a lot of money doing that, so I wasn't intimidated by that role.
Speaker 2:It was here's your chance, so I took it.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. What fears did you encounter that you had to overcome?
Speaker 2:Number one, just being the primary breadwinner of my family. My husband is an excellent guy and no ego attached. It's about having a team mindset. So his perspective was you're getting these opportunities, you're rising through the corporate ladder, he's excited for me, so he's in a position that better balanced our family, and so now I'm like we're going to have to think about flipping this around.
Speaker 2:You may have to get a little bit more aggressive in your life, because I need to be able to take a step back to move forward. I know that there's more for me on the outside than it was in, but it's going to take me time to get there.
Speaker 1:And so that was my first fear that responsibility.
Speaker 2:I am a mother of four. I have one graduating college, but I have one going into kindergarten, so I have a long ways to go in terms of raising children and getting them where they need to be. So my biggest fear is this is going to be a change for us. And then how am I going to maintain a lifestyle that I would like and take care of these children?
Speaker 2:So that was the number one. I think the number two was the loss of community. I have been with that job for so long and so many of my day to day communication with the people in the relationships that I built there. I built there, and so I've had to come out and build a different community of entrepreneurs and people in the community and people that are more aligned with where I am now and so, yeah, but at first it was scary. I'm going to miss them. I almost thought about taking the other job just so I didn't have to experience change. I could just get back into where it was and I'll be right back on the rat race with everybody else. It was that I'm stepping away from a community that I've been a part of for a long time. But I was ready. I really was. I really was ready. God had already given me a lot of confidence in the work that I'm supposed to be doing and I knew that the biggest thing I'll have to work on is the patience to wait for things to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, set the precedence for yourself in a company and that's where you're comfortable. It's easy to be comfortable because you're successful People, the camaraderie, networking, yeah.
Speaker 2:Your reputation precedes you. Like I walk in a moment, I'm like that's Doris. Oh yeah, she's excellent. That's the one from Florida. Yeah, you get caught up in that.
Speaker 1:She's excellent. That's the one from Florida. Yeah, you get caught up in that, the thought of you. Know what I'm about to take on this? Consulting, coaching, write a book, all of that Right, and it's your independence. And doing that is so easy for judgment to get into your consciousness, to try to project worst case scenario and ultimately that's where the fear really starts to come in. I admire you because I think most women need to hear your story, your journey, and the book is going to be powerful in the sense of that journey, of what you went through as a 19 year old pregnant trying to figure it out to where you are today. That's powerful. So congratulations to you.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it was, I was thinking about this today that one of the reasons it's important for me to share the story because I don't want people to confuse and I was reading this my faith walk as a Kate walk, because it wasn't like it was not a Kate walk. Yeah, it was literally a faith walk. And in this book again you learn how. Again, how God can just take the pieces and put together something that looks real good, like he can put you back together, because I'm telling you, I was a hot mess, express pregnant at 19. And when you dive into that book and just see I flunked out of college and I had to work my way back in and just all the different things I went to. I developed a muscle memory for bending but not breaking.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's important for people to hear that, and not only this book, but in the books to come, because this book is highly focused on the relationship or the things that I learned through parenthood. But a future book that I'm going to have like pieces to piece is literally about my corporate journey and my exit and when I hit that realization and what I and I left in pieces and how, over the last year, is my healing journey, what I've done to regain my confidence, to emotionally and mentally stabilize myself, because I left very broken.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I took it as a hint. It's time.
Speaker 1:And the reality is people don't see the grind. They see the greatness. They don't understand the grind behind getting to the greatness. Right, I correlate it with sports all the time Like Steph Curry, the greatest shooter of all time. But they don't see the thousands of three pointers he's putting up in just a summer alone alone, not to mention the bulk of work that he's putting in behind the scenes to even get to that point at college.
Speaker 1:To start, the greatness, right, see the amount of work that you're putting in, the thought, the consideration, the sacrifices, all the little things that you're doing to build towards the launch of your book, right, all they see is, oh, she did it. That's great, good for her. Woo, woo, woo, high five, high five. But it's so much work, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Even in the experiences of writing a book, but just in this process, right now.
Speaker 2:I wasn't a marketing major I was a sociology major and I wanted to go to law school, so I'm completely out of my element. I'm doing daily posts on social media, I'm learning how to do Canva, I'm doing all my own marketing, I'm my business development manager, I'm registering and going out and I've always sold product, but now I'm selling my own brand. It's different when I walk into the room and I have to be an advocate for myself and sell my brand and say why you should choose me to come and facilitate for your leaders.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I'm learning a whole different set of skills and I'm using the skills I have to transfer to transition, or the transferable skills that I have, into this new life that I'm creating. But I'm rebuilding my whole career right now.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep. Congratulations to you as we get ready to sign off here. How can listeners find you in the book?
Speaker 2:All right, so again, doris Jackson shades herecom. I made it easy. It's just my namecom. Please contact me there. You'll be able to send me an email If you need to. You'll be able to purchase the book. You'll get to learn a little bit more about me and my family there, and then about my business, shades, your Coaching and Consulting Also, which you can also go to ShadesYourCoachingConsultcom Social media. I'm on Facebook. My page is in private. You can be all in my business. It's not private. I live very authentically at Shades, your Coaching Console on Facebook. Same thing at Shades, your Coaching Console on Instagram. And if you go on TikTok, it's my name Doris Jackson Shades here.
Speaker 1:That should be very easy to find you. You're right, thank you, thank you. So, as we sign out, any last words of wisdom, nuggets. You want to leave for the audience.
Speaker 2:Last words of wisdom nuggets you want to leave for the audience. Last words of wisdom. I guess my favorite thing to tell people is again don't wait for the rain to end. Learn how to dance in the rain.
Speaker 1:There it is. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for your time today and best of luck and wishes on your new book.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for the opportunity to be here.
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